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Forgiveness is the act of ceasing to expect repayment of something that is owed.

this is something to think upon.

Date: 2009-09-22 05:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] e-bourne.livejournal.com
Glad you had a nice weekend. We are glad you are home. Welcome back to a beautiful autumnal perfect day. Sorry for the kerfuffle before you left. Stupid me forgetting stupid cellphone in stupid charger.

Hope lobster was satisfying.

Date: 2009-09-22 05:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] e-bourne.livejournal.com
After tomorrow's move day is good. I am not-entirely-sane person right now. And our schedule is busy. We don't know yet Mark's Home Health PT schedule. I may need some heavy moving stuff help. (awww, Kai just rolled over on his back, asking for pets. I am beset by cuteness). After Wednesday we should talk again.

You and Chris are amazing.

Date: 2009-09-22 06:59 pm (UTC)
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You and Chris are amazing.
Ironymaiden Awesome, Wonderful Too = Chris

Date: 2009-09-22 06:58 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] buhrger
i still prefer forgiveness is giving up on changing the past. not that i'm particularly good at that, but, yunno.

Date: 2009-09-22 08:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] errantly.livejournal.com
Wow, I really need to think on that one too.

Date: 2009-09-22 11:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] textualdeviance.livejournal.com
I'm far more likely to send the debtor to collections.

As with monetary debt collection, I do allow for extenuating circumstances, but if the debtor has the ability to pay, and just can't be arsed, they're not going to have that debt magically forgiven.

Date: 2009-09-23 03:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shadow-and-veil.livejournal.com
I forgive pretty easily most of the time. I've been taught that it would be better not to take offense to begin with. The things I don't forgive are not things that can be paid back. They don't have a trade price. When I write off, it's in a dead-to-me way, judging by the examples I can think of.

So what is forgiveness, to me? That *is* something to think about.

I'm glad you had a good weekend.

Date: 2009-09-23 04:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] e-bourne.livejournal.com
Here's what I think.

If you don't forgive people for the injury(s) they cause you, you can end up carrying a lot of rocks on your back. After all, you don't know the hows or whys of what's behind their behavior. Assumptions are stressful. I try not to make them. I don't always succeed. I sucketh often, but I try.

However, forgiving someone doesn't mean you have to trust them. If someone does you an injury, you can forgive them, and still protect yourself from future harm.

Being friendly doesn't mean you're friends.

Date: 2009-09-23 05:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sinthrex.livejournal.com
Yeah. This is a hard definition to use if the way that you got to ceasing to expect to be repaid was by sawing the other party off at the knees.

It's sort of unreasonable to expect repayment from someone you've thrown out of your life. I have a hard time of thinking of this as forgiveness.

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