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nytimes has a feature on Mark Driscoll

Driscoll fills me with rage in a visceral way that even Focus on the Family can't touch. especially because he's spewing his misogynist crap from his stronghold in my neighborhood. (fun. as an example, i was going to link his classic blog post about how Ted Haggard wouldn't have been doing a male prostitute if his wife hadn't let herself go, but it's mysteriously been taken down. thank goodness for other christians who don't care about copyright.)

therefore, i'm amused that what is upsetting me the most after reading the article is that an avowed Calvinist would talk about how much he admires Martin Luther.

Things like this...

Date: 2009-01-11 12:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] andrew-the-oga.livejournal.com
Things like this harden my belief that the very existence of religious moderates only aids and abets the behaviours of the religious extremists.

I don't want to believe it, but I encounter so little that pushes me the other way.

Date: 2009-01-11 12:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] spazzychic.livejournal.com

Are these your shoes? Pleh.

I thought that guy had gotten hit by a bus, generally preferring to think he did not exist in my universe. No such luck.

All that said, interesting read.

Date: 2009-01-11 01:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] e-bourne.livejournal.com
Growing up RC, I am always amazed, baffled, by others from a similar background who have chosen to continue embrace theology. Didn't they learn anything?

At this jaundiced time of life, if you spout the bible at me, take it all sucker. Take the fact that if your brother dies without children, you must get them for him with his wife. Take the dietary rules and no more cheeseburgers or bacon for you. No more shellfish. Take the rules of dress and put on those prayer shawls. Take the whole book. Don't you quote the bible at me and dare to pick and mother fucking choose.

Oh wait, I need to lie down for moment. I apologize for this fit of temper.

I quite agree

Date: 2009-01-11 05:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] andrew-the-oga.livejournal.com
So much in life is approached a la carte. People who approach religion as a "Choose Your Own Adventure," and then when you call them on it, they say, "Well, I'm not into organized religion," or, sometimes, "I believe in Jesus's essential message, not in how the patriarchal church perverted it"

I guess all I should say is, "If it feels good, do it."

Date: 2009-01-12 12:16 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] buhrger
an avowed Calvinist would talk about how much he admires Martin Luther
although he admires luther as a person, not necessarily as a theologian

Date: 2009-01-12 05:49 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] buhrger
as with most of us, i think it was the second more than the first.

Date: 2009-01-12 07:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] weezlgrrrl.livejournal.com
Hey, the dude has a point. I constantly worry that if I gain five pounds, my husband of nearly twenty years is going to start visiting gay prostitutes...

What world does this retard live in, anyway?

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